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02. How to Escape the Perfection Trap with Thomas Curran

I have a sneaking suspicion that there are a lot of perfectionists here on Substack. If you read perfection is the enemy of progress, then you know I’m among you.

I used to not think I had a problem with perfectionism, that it was something I had left in my past. But it had only grown to loom so large and insidious that I didn’t even recognize it as perfectionism, but it was the very thing that kept me stuck in place, spinning my wheels for YEARS.

In this episode I sat down with Thomas Curran, the world’s leading expert in perfectionism, to go on a deep dive into the complexities, exploring why it happens, its societal implications, and what we can do to curtail its sometimes devastating effects. We discuss how perfectionism has evolved in modern society, particularly in relation to work culture and mental health. The conversation highlights the multi-dimensional nature of perfectionism, including self-oriented, socially prescribed, and other-oriented perfectionism.

About Thomas Curran:

Dr Thomas Curran is the world’s leading expert on perfectionism, author of the best-selling book The Perfection Trap, and acclaimed Associate Professor of Psychology at The London School of Economics and Political Science.

His TED Talk on perfectionism received over three million views, he has written for major international publications such as TIME magazine and the Harvard Business Review, and his work has been featured in the BBC, New Scientist, New York Times, CNN, and Wall Street Journal.

Through extensive research, public speaking, consulting services, and academic instruction, Dr. Curran is not just participating in but leading the global conversation on perfectionism. His mission is clear: to uncover the root of perfectionism, its effects on us, the reasons for its rise, and most importantly, what we can do to stop it.

As a self-proclaimed perfectionist, Dr. Curran challenges the modern-day imperative to do more and have more and instead offers realism, teaching us that the unrelenting treadmill of perfectionism is exhausting, compromising our mental health, impacting our relationships, and blocking progress toward our goals.

Interested in more from Thomas Curran?

TED Talk: Our Dangerous Obsession with Perfection is Getting Worse

Get his book, The Perfection Trap: Embracing the Power of Good Enough

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